EGOD Scenery ( for example )

12 Oct 2018 15:13 #40464 by hughesm
Hi,

I would like to check i am getting the best out of FG scenery, can someone advise please ?

I have scenery downloads switched on and the default locations left as is.
I have tried with FG2017 and FG2018 and get the same symptoms mentioned below
I have a 34Mb t'internet

Whenever I start FG is goes away for 5 minutes or more downloading scenery. I can understand this for a new location, but it happens even if I pop out and back into FG immediately at the same location...it downloads more.

I have used Terrasync and that downloads 5K files, but even then I pop into FG and it downloads more. I moved to Terrasync thinking that would help keep things up to date and avoid the lost flying time while i wait but it does not so i stopped using it a few months ago.

From the file timestamps it does look like its downloading ok.

But i never see any differences.

Attached is a picture of EGOD with as much realism switched on as I can find ( its raining in the screenshot so at least i've got the Welsh weather correct ! )

Is this how everyone else sees it, with no buildings ?




I've even tried adding my own buildings using the FG wiki but cannot get the buildings to show up when i put the XML files in the launcher.

Don't get me wrong, i see buildings, not as much as i would have thought all this downloading would warrant. With EGOD being the home of FGUK i would of thought some buildings would have been submitted. I'll like to do that myself, and for my locals such as Cambridge or Old Warden.

I'm also a little confused when i see topics such as "download this scenery for Lisbon" etc. Would't they be submitted to the library. It seems odd to search the internet looking for downloads for an area I might want to fly from.

Thank you, points will be awarded for the answer nearest to the style of Donald Trump

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12 Oct 2018 15:28 #40465 by StuartC
Sometimes scenery is not submitted to the library because it may contain an object that is not GPL licenced etc.
Egod is best viewed from our scenery version, available here:-

www.fguk.eu/index.php/hangar/download/3-...-fguk-custom-scenery

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12 Oct 2018 16:07 #40467 by timi
And there is a bug in the code that checks if a scenery is installed or not so that’s why it initiates the download every time. But it’s a known issue and will be fixed.

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12 Oct 2018 16:22 #40468 by enrogue
Was fixed in 2018.2.3, which because of issues on sourceforge, never made it to the download page - it should also be fixed in the current release candidate (2018.3.1)

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19 Oct 2018 16:23 #40559 by hughesm
Thank you for your help. If its a known problem does that mean everyone is waiting 10 minute every time they start up flight gear for phantom scenery to download ? Or is there something I can do to workaround it ?

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19 Oct 2018 19:38 #40560 by timi
I turn off downloads when I know I've got the full scenery.
And an SSD keeps the times short even if I keep the
downloads on.

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23 Oct 2018 16:39 #40596 by hughesm
Thanks Timi,

I too turn downloads off but it seems to ignore that with FG2018 and download more, even if I have just been to the same location.

Can I determine where to download from ? Perhaps I am linked to a slow server or something

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23 Oct 2018 16:51 #40597 by timi
That's another bug. The download scenery automatically switch
doesn't turn off the downloads. when using the launcher You'll
also have to disable it from the in game menu,

File -> Scenery Download

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12 Nov 2018 11:49 #40875 by hughesm
It took me a while to figure out the EGOD scenery, I ended up having to put it in the programs directory with the other flightgear standard data, IT looks great now, thats just the type of thing I want to contribute to/

FG2018 would not read from my scenery data in "documents/...". I don't know if that's a common fault but I am starting to think that my install is not saving anything downloaded.

waiting on 2018.3 to see if that improves the situation I suppose.

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12 Nov 2018 12:46 #40878 by Algernon
FlightGear has got increasingly fussy about where it will look for documents in. Your documents folder SHOULD be okay by default, but there are a number of reasons why it might not be.

I assume you're on Windows? I find it easier to have FlightGear NOT installed in Program Files, but install it somewhere completely separate which doesn't have tricky permissions issues. Then, you should be able to stick the EGOD scenery folder in $FGDATA/Scenery/ wihtout any issues. But it sounds like you've got it working now anyway :)

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14 Nov 2018 14:19 #40899 by hughesm
Thank you.

I think I will wait until the next version 2018.3 ? is released, then I may actually remove the lot, I have 2017 & 18 installed at the moment and have tried so many attempts to fix the scenery that I'm not sure where it is picking anything up from anymore !

I'll take your advice and put it somewhere new in Documents ( yes, you are right - Win10 ) , copying my pedals mlx and screen shotting the setup so I can recreate it.

I've found so much degraded in 2018.2 from 2017 that I have high hopes for 2018.3

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28 Dec 2018 20:10 #41263 by thebroons
My wish / hope for the New Year.

A new install and help file for the EGOD custom scenery. I've not seen it now for over half a year and I'm quite cross about it.

I have the EGOD folder. I put it in folder X. I go into adding menu and add the EGOD folder in this location. I move it up to top of the list.

De nada. I have some other airport scenery. Same dealio. Bollocks. Seriously thinking of reverting to 2017.x where I could actually see these items and didn't have the stupid thing trying to DL all the time when the scenery is already collected (solved by terra master switch). Sure starting to look like the last 2 versions of FG for me are suck-arse lemons.

Anyway, any hits / pointers / guidance on getting our home base showing up on my machine gladly accepted.

Grrrrrrr.

G

If you lived with my brain you'd begin eviction proceedings...

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29 Dec 2018 17:46 #41269 by Victor65
The only way for me to make it work (OSX Sierra and former OS's) is to follow your procedure
AND
add another EGOD folder also into FG/Contents/Resources/data/Scenery

worth a try ...
:)

Pat

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29 Dec 2018 18:14 - 29 Dec 2018 18:15 #41270 by thebroons
Thanks, Tried it but didn't work for me.

Have also tried EDOD folder in all possible folders scenery is drawn from. Zilch. Not just an EGOD phenomenon - every add on airport or scenery is farked. As it was in 2018.2.2

I guess FG is worth the price you pay. Still royally pissed off that before I went to 2.2 I didn't have any of all this nonsense, and everything worked fine. And I usually wait 3 months before getting the latest version as I've been burned with that which is buggy before. Only jumped to 3.1 because 2.2 was so shitty. So far, my experience has been jumping out of the septic tank and into the sewer. Shite.

G

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31 Dec 2018 21:19 #41296 by hughesm
HI,

I had endless trouble getting any new scenery to work with 2018.2.2, but finally in 2018.3.n i got it to recognise my EGOD download.

From what i remember from a month ago, i have to move the "models" folder from the place its in in the download. I looked at the generic scenery folders and realised that the EGOD structure was not the same. Once I move the contents to match the standard folders I then added the location to my scenery list and moved it to the top, I fell out of my chair when i saw the buildings because i had been trying for months.

I agree with all your frustration.

However....i'm just about to start on a new thread about 2018.3.n scenery !
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